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	16 DEC 1944 - Recieved from USAF at Douglas Long Beach, CA plant as A-26B.<br/>		16 DEC 1944 - Recieved from USAF at Douglas Long Beach, CA plant as A-26B.<br/>
	18 DEC - Departed Long Beach Plant. <br/>		18 DEC - Departed Long Beach Plant. <br/>
	19 DEC - Had a lay-over stop at ~~an air field who's name I can't read.~~ <br/>		19 DEC - Had a lay-over stop at Love Field <br/>
	22 DEC - Arrived at Hunter Field, GA, 302nd Base Unit. <br/>		22 DEC - Arrived at Hunter Field, GA, 302nd Base Unit. <br/>

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Operational History

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	There's a number of other entries, but mostly it just constitutes sitting around in various air bases or in storage until 14 MAR 1950. That is the last entry on the IARC.		There's a number of other entries, but mostly it just constitutes sitting around in various air bases or in storage until 14 MAR 1950. That is the last entry on the IARC.

	Here's where the mystery comes in. The plane was featured in an Official Training Film of the "Army Air Force 1st Motion Picture Unit" in 1945. In the Film the plane is bearing markings of E3-K, as shown in the images below.		Here's where the mystery comes in. The plane was featured in an Official Training Film of the "Army Air Force 1st Motion Picture Unit" in 1945. In the Film the plane is bearing markings of K-E3, as shown in the images below.

	E3 is a ~~Squadron Code of the 8th Air Force -~~ the ~~732nd Bomb Squadron~~. ~~But, that doesn~~'~~t make sense for a couple~~ of ~~reasons~~. ~~First~~, ~~this particular plane never left the US~~, ~~so it shouldn~~'t ~~be wearing 8AF markings. Second~~, ~~that particular unit was not known to~~ have Invaders. ~~Looking closer,~~ there ~~is an extra~~ bar ~~above~~ the ~~letter~~ E ~~in the photos and the video~~. ~~That extra bar doesn~~'~~t match~~ the ~~8th Air Force markings. I reached out to~~ the ~~United States Air Force Historical Research Agency with regards to this squadron code~~ and ~~they were unable to provide any insight~~.		The markings designate is as a training plane. The K was used by Kellogg Field and the 357th Base Unit. There's no record of this plane ever being assigned to Kellogg Field. According to a training base expert I've been talking to, John Voss, they wouldn't have used K for two different fields simultaneously, and neither of us have ever seen another K training base for Invaders. And then there's that bar over the E. I might have chalked it up to a mistake, expect that it's present on both the nose and the tail and it seems unlikely that someone would mess up twice.

	I suspect (pure conjecture on my part) that these markings were applied to the plane while it was attached to the 326th Base Unit. I also hypothesize that this is where and when the aforementioned video was filmed. they probably filmed it with the Markings in this fashion to represent planes as they ~~typically~~ appear in the ~~European Theater of Operations (ETO)~~. I think it was a purely aesthetic move to provide familiarity and doesn't necessarily mean anything specific~~. I think they wanted a plane that looked like it was part of combat squadron for PR purposes and so painted this plane~~. I can certainly find no records of either the 137th Base Unit or the 326th Base Unit using such markings. But, based on when the film was produced - during 1945 - it has to be one of these two units. If you have any information about these markings, the pilot video, or have other photographs of planes in these units that would confirm or deny this information, please let us know. (And be sure to check out or other [[Invader Mysteries]] to see what we can't figure out.)		I suspect (pure conjecture on my part) that these markings were applied to the plane while it was attached to the 326th Base Unit. I also hypothesize that this is where and when the aforementioned video was filmed. they probably filmed it with the Markings in this fashion to represent planes as they as they would appear at the training bases. I think it was a purely aesthetic move to provide familiarity and doesn't necessarily mean anything specific. I can certainly find no records of either the 137th Base Unit or the 326th Base Unit using such markings. But, based on when the film was produced - during 1945 - it has to be one of these two units. If you have any information about these markings, the pilot video, or have other photographs of planes in these units that would confirm or deny this information, please let us know. (And be sure to check out or other [[Invader Mysteries]] to see what we can't figure out.)

	Joe Baugher has no data on this plane, but Warbirds Registry does. After the plane was struck from the Air Force inventory, it seems to have made its way into service with the French Air Force.		Joe Baugher has no data on this plane, but Warbirds Registry does. After the plane was struck from the Air Force inventory, it seems to have made its way into service with the French Air Force.
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	- Delivered from Pretoria to Creil, placed in open storage, 1968-1969.<br/>		- Delivered from Pretoria to Creil, placed in open storage, 1968-1969.<br/>
	Broken up, Creil, circa 1970.<br/>		Broken up, Creil, circa 1970.<br/>


	==Accidents==		==Accidents==

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	*Warbird Registry - One Entry.		*Warbird Registry - One Entry.

	[[Category:Needs Research]]		[[Category:A-26B-35-DL]]
			[[Category:A-26B-35]]
			[[Category:A-26B]]
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	[[Category:Have Photo]]		[[Category:Have Photo]]
	~~[[Category:A-26B]]~~
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	==Images==		==Images==
	[[File:41-39456.jpg\|~~500px~~]]<br/>		[[File:41-39456.jpg\|900px]]<br/>
	[[File:41-39456-2.jpg\|~~500px~~]]<br/>		[[File:41-39456-2.jpg\|900px]]<br/>

	==Sources==		==Sources==

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	This plane is something of an enigma. It is fairly famous as far as images of Invaders go, ~~but now I understand why~~. ~~What's less clear are the particular~~ markings this plane ~~displays~~. ~~See Operational History below for~~ more ~~details~~.		This plane is something of an enigma. It is fairly famous as far as images of Invaders go, because it was used in the Invader Training Video and many promotional videos. The markings on this plane were something of a puzzle. After a lot of research I have been able to determine that the K-E3 designation is paint scheme used on planes in training squadrons. I have now seen several other planes painted in a similar fashion with different letters to represent their units. Based on the information on record, my guess would be the 326th Base Unit Combat Training Squadron, but more research is required to definitively prove this one way or the other.


	==Operational History==		==Operational History==

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	This plane's operational history is well known because we have the planes IARC.		This plane's operational history is well known because we have the planes IARC.

	16 DEC 1944 - Recieved from USAF at Douglas Long Beach, CA plant as A-26B.		16 DEC 1944 - Recieved from USAF at Douglas Long Beach, CA plant as A-26B.<br/>
	18 DEC - Departed Long Beach Plant.		18 DEC - Departed Long Beach Plant. <br/>
	19 DEC - Had a lay-over stop at an air field who's name I can't read.		19 DEC - Had a lay-over stop at an air field who's name I can't read. <br/>
	22 DEC - Arrived at Hunter Field, GA, 302nd Base Unit.		22 DEC - Arrived at Hunter Field, GA, 302nd Base Unit. <br/>

	9 JAN 1945 - Arrived to Mariana Air Field, FL, 381st Base Unit.		9 JAN 1945 - Arrived to Mariana Air Field, FL, 381st Base Unit. <br/>
	3 FEB - To (Unknown) 8th Base Unit (this makes no sense. 8th Base Unit was in Rabaul)		3 FEB - To (Unknown) 8th Base Unit (this makes no sense. 8th Base Unit was in Rabaul)<br/>
	29 MAR - To Mariana Field, 137th Base Unit		29 MAR - To Mariana Field, 137th Base Unit<br/>
	30 MAR - Converted to TA-26B		30 MAR - Converted to TA-26B<br/>
	30 SEP - To MacDill AF, 326th Base Unit Combat Training Squadron		30 SEP - To MacDill AF, 326th Base Unit Combat Training Squadron<br/>
	4 OCT - Still at MacDill AF, 326th Base Unit. (looks like 326th had a restructuring?)		4 OCT - Still at MacDill AF, 326th Base Unit. (looks like 326th had a restructuring?)<br/>
	29 OCT - To Mariana AF, 137th Base Unit		29 OCT - To Mariana AF, 137th Base Unit<br/>
	6 NOV - To Hobbs Field,		6 NOV - To Hobbs Field, <br/>
	10 NOV - Left Hobbs Field		10 NOV - Left Hobbs Field<br/>
	10 NOV - Arrived at Hobbs Field, 137th Base Unit, Continental Air Forces		10 NOV - Arrived at Hobbs Field, 137th Base Unit, Continental Air Forces<br/>
	13 NOV - Still at Hobbs Field, to 4160th Base Unit, Air Technical Service Command.		13 NOV - Still at Hobbs Field, to 4160th Base Unit, Air Technical Service Command. <br/>
	1 MAR 1946 - Still at Hobbs Field, 4160th Base Unit.		1 MAR 1946 - Still at Hobbs Field, 4160th Base Unit.<br/>
	22 APR - Hobbs AF, Air Material Command, 4160th BU		22 APR - Hobbs AF, Air Material Command, 4160th BU<br/>
	There's a number of other entries, but mostly it just constitutes sitting around in various air bases or in storage until 14 MAR 1950. That is the last entry on the IARC.		There's a number of other entries, but mostly it just constitutes sitting around in various air bases or in storage until 14 MAR 1950. That is the last entry on the IARC.

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	Joe Baugher has no data on this plane, but Warbirds Registry does. After the plane was struck from the Air Force inventory, it seems to have made its way into service with the French Air Force.		Joe Baugher has no data on this plane, but Warbirds Registry does. After the plane was struck from the Air Force inventory, it seems to have made its way into service with the French Air Force.

	Delivered to French AF as 447-C, 41-39546.		Delivered to French AF as 447-C, 41-39546.<br/>
	- BOC: December 10, 1956.		- BOC: December 10, 1956.<br/>
	- SOC: August 26, 1986.		- SOC: August 26, 1986.<br/>
	- Converted to RB-26P, March 1961.		- Converted to RB-26P, March 1961.<br/>
	To Societe Carta, Creil, 1966.		To Societe Carta, Creil, 1966.<br/>
	- Registered as F-BNTM.		- Registered as F-BNTM.<br/>
	- No CofA.		- No CofA.<br/>
	- Delivered from France to Pretoria for survey work, 1967.		- Delivered from France to Pretoria for survey work, 1967.<br/>
	International Aviation Services, Pretoria, May 16, 1967.		International Aviation Services, Pretoria, May 16, 1967.<br/>
	- Registered as ZS-EUT.		- Registered as ZS-EUT.<br/>
	Societe Carta, Creil, 1967-1969.		Societe Carta, Creil, 1967-1969.<br/>
	- Registered as F-BLCM.		- Registered as F-BLCM.<br/>
	- No CofA.		- No CofA.<br/>
	- Delivered from Pretoria to Creil, placed in open storage, 1968-1969.		- Delivered from Pretoria to Creil, placed in open storage, 1968-1969.<br/>
	Broken up, Creil, circa 1970.		Broken up, Creil, circa 1970.<br/>


	==Accidents==		==Accidents==
	This plane is not listed in the Air Force accident database. Given it's long history as a civilian craft and a French		This plane is not listed in the Air Force accident database. Given it's long history as a civilian craft and a French plane, there may be accident records there, but it needs to be checked.

	==Known Crew==		==Known Crew==
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	*Martin Simpson -		*Martin Simpson -
	*Warbird Registry - One Entry.		*Warbird Registry - One Entry.

			[[Category:Needs Research]]
			[[Category:Have Photo]]
			[[Category:A-26B]]
			[[Category:A-26B-35]]

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This plane is something of an enigma. It is fairly famous as far as images of Invaders go, but now I understand why. What's less clear are the particular markings this plane displays. See Operational History below for more details.

==Operational History==
This plane's operational history is well known because we have the planes IARC.

16 DEC 1944 - Recieved from USAF at Douglas Long Beach, CA plant as A-26B.
18 DEC - Departed Long Beach Plant.
19 DEC - Had a lay-over stop at an air field who's name I can't read.
22 DEC - Arrived at Hunter Field, GA, 302nd Base Unit.

9 JAN 1945 - Arrived to Mariana Air Field, FL, 381st Base Unit.
3 FEB - To (Unknown) 8th Base Unit (this makes no sense. 8th Base Unit was in Rabaul)
29 MAR - To Mariana Field, 137th Base Unit
30 MAR - Converted to TA-26B
30 SEP - To MacDill AF, 326th Base Unit Combat Training Squadron
4 OCT - Still at MacDill AF, 326th Base Unit. (looks like 326th had a restructuring?)
29 OCT - To Mariana AF, 137th Base Unit
6 NOV - To Hobbs Field,
10 NOV - Left Hobbs Field
10 NOV - Arrived at Hobbs Field, 137th Base Unit, Continental Air Forces
13 NOV - Still at Hobbs Field, to 4160th Base Unit, Air Technical Service Command.
1 MAR 1946 - Still at Hobbs Field, 4160th Base Unit.
22 APR - Hobbs AF, Air Material Command, 4160th BU
There's a number of other entries, but mostly it just constitutes sitting around in various air bases or in storage until 14 MAR 1950. That is the last entry on the IARC.

Here's where the mystery comes in. The plane was featured in an Official Training Film of the "Army Air Force 1st Motion Picture Unit" in 1945. In the Film the plane is bearing markings of E3-K, as shown in the images below.

E3 is a Squadron Code of the 8th Air Force - the 732nd Bomb Squadron. But, that doesn't make sense for a couple of reasons. First, this particular plane never left the US, so it shouldn't be wearing 8AF markings. Second, that particular unit was not known to have Invaders. Looking closer, there is an extra bar above the letter E in the photos and the video. That extra bar doesn't match the 8th Air Force markings. I reached out to the United States Air Force Historical Research Agency with regards to this squadron code and they were unable to provide any insight.

I suspect (pure conjecture on my part) that these markings were applied to the plane while it was attached to the 326th Base Unit. I also hypothesize that this is where and when the aforementioned video was filmed. they probably filmed it with the Markings in this fashion to represent planes as they typically appear in the European Theater of Operations (ETO). I think it was a purely aesthetic move to provide familiarity and doesn't necessarily mean anything specific. I think they wanted a plane that looked like it was part of combat squadron for PR purposes and so painted this plane. I can certainly find no records of either the 137th Base Unit or the 326th Base Unit using such markings. But, based on when the film was produced - during 1945 - it has to be one of these two units. If you have any information about these markings, the pilot video, or have other photographs of planes in these units that would confirm or deny this information, please let us know. (And be sure to check out or other [[Invader Mysteries]] to see what we can't figure out.)

Joe Baugher has no data on this plane, but Warbirds Registry does. After the plane was struck from the Air Force inventory, it seems to have made its way into service with the French Air Force.

Delivered to French AF as 447-C, 41-39546.
- BOC: December 10, 1956.
- SOC: August 26, 1986.
- Converted to RB-26P, March 1961.
To Societe Carta, Creil, 1966.
- Registered as F-BNTM.
- No CofA.
- Delivered from France to Pretoria for survey work, 1967.
International Aviation Services, Pretoria, May 16, 1967.
- Registered as ZS-EUT.
Societe Carta, Creil, 1967-1969.
- Registered as F-BLCM.
- No CofA.
- Delivered from Pretoria to Creil, placed in open storage, 1968-1969.
Broken up, Creil, circa 1970.

==Accidents==
This plane is not listed in the Air Force accident database. Given it's long history as a civilian craft and a French

==Known Crew==
None

==Disposition==
According to Warbird Registry, this plane is believed to have been broken up for scrap circa 1970.

==Images==
[[File:41-39456.jpg|500px]]<br/>
[[File:41-39456-2.jpg|500px]]<br/>

==Sources==
Databases Searched:
*MACR - No Result
*KORWALD - No Result
*Air Force Accident Database - No Result

*Joe Baugher - No Result
*Martin Simpson -
*Warbird Registry - One Entry.