41-39117 - Revision history

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	This photo shows 41-39117 during combat trials with the ~~[[13th~~ Bombardment Squadron]] in the Pacific. <br>		This photo shows 41-39117 during combat trials with the 89th Bombardment Squadron in the Pacific. <br>
	[[File:41-39117 Eval.jpg\|900px]]		[[File:41-39117 Eval.jpg\|900px]]

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	[[41-39117]], one of the Pacific Evaluation Invaders sent to the [[3rd Bombardment Group]] during 1944. Initially I thought that the caption with this photo must be wrong because the tail had what looked like a big fat stripe that resembled the 386th Bombardment Group markings, however, once I saw [[41-39118]] I understood what I was seeing. The top of the fin of this plane has a colored stripe for the squadron, and then for some reason there is a bar above the serial number. This gives it the appearance of the wider stripe, but this is not correct. The Douglas A-20 Havoc in the background further places this plane squarely as being in the ~~pacific~~. In enlarging the image of the plane it looks like it reads "Coaster RAMBLER". <br>		This photo shows 41-39117 during combat trials with the [[13th Bombardment Squadron]] in the Pacific. <br>
			[[File:41-39117 Eval.jpg\|900px]]

			[[41-39117]], one of the Pacific Evaluation Invaders sent to the [[3rd Bombardment Group]] during 1944. Initially I thought that the caption with this photo must be wrong because the tail had what looked like a big fat stripe that resembled the 386th Bombardment Group markings, however, once I saw [[41-39118]] I understood what I was seeing. The top of the fin of this plane has a colored stripe for the squadron, and then for some reason there is a bar above the serial number. This gives it the appearance of the wider stripe, but this is not correct. The Douglas A-20 Havoc in the background further places this plane squarely as being in the Pacific. In enlarging the image of the plane it looks like it reads "Coaster RAMBLER". <br>
	[[File:41-39117.jpg\|900px]]		[[File:41-39117.jpg\|900px]]

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	Jun 1944 - Combat evaluation		Jun 1944 - Combat evaluation

			25 Jul 1945 - Declared obsolete and abandoned overseas.

	[[File:41-39117 IARC.jpg\|600px]]		[[File:41-39117 IARC.jpg\|600px]]

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	This is incorrect. The production notes show that the A-26B-1-DT model was painted as Jim describes above. However, one of the changes listed on the production notes for the A-26B-5-DT is the "deletion of camouflage". This is further supported by photographic evidence. Jim stated that no photos existed, but I have images of 41-39116, 41-39117, & 41-39118 during their combat trials at Zadnab. All of those planes are unfinished aluminum, not Olive Drab. These images confirm the data in the production note changes listed by Douglas.		This is incorrect. The production notes show that the A-26B-1-DT model was painted as Jim describes above. However, one of the changes listed on the production notes for the A-26B-5-DT is the "deletion of camouflage". This is further supported by photographic evidence. Jim stated that no photos existed, but I have images of 41-39116, 41-39117, & 41-39118 during their combat trials at Zadnab. All of those planes are unfinished aluminum, not Olive Drab. These images confirm the data in the production note changes listed by Douglas.

	One thing that is of note is that the production records for the A-26B-5-DL block indicate that it was built with the 75mm cannon in the nose. This block includes planes between serial numbers 41-39105 through 41-39119. Of these, we know for certain that [[41-39105]] and [[41-39108]] had 75mm cannons. This plane should also have a 75mm cannon due to the production block, but ~~both of the photos of this plane show the 6-gun arrangement. It seem probable that~~ the 75mm cannon ~~nose~~ was ~~swapped out for~~ the ~~6 gun version specifically for~~ the ~~combat trials~~.		One thing that is of note is that the production records for the A-26B-5-DL block indicate that it was built with the 75mm cannon in the nose. This block includes planes between serial numbers 41-39105 through 41-39119. Of these, we know for certain that [[41-39105]] and [[41-39108]] had 75mm cannons. This plane should also have a 75mm cannon due to the production block, but the 75mm cannon was removed because it was too heavy to ferry. After the plane arrived at Nazdab 6x .50 caliber guns were installed in the nose.


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	Assembled and flown to Nadzab, New Guinea. 3rd Bomb Group, Hollandia, New Guinea.		Assembled and flown to Nadzab, New Guinea. 3rd Bomb Group, Hollandia, New Guinea.

	Combat evaluation ~~June 1944~~		Jun 1944 - Combat evaluation

			[[File:41-39117 IARC.jpg\|600px]]

	==Accidents==		==Accidents==

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	[[41-39117]], one of the Pacific Evaluation Invaders sent to the [[3rd Bombardment Group]] during 1944. Initially I thought that the caption with this photo must be wrong because the tail had what looked like a big fat stripe that resembled the 386th Bombardment Group markings, however, once I saw [[41-39118]] I understood what I was seeing. The top of the fin of this plane has a colored stripe for the squadron, and then for some reason there is a bar above the serial number. This gives it the appearance of the wider stripe, but this is not correct. The Douglas A-20 Havoc in the background further places this plane squarely as being in the pacific. ~~I cannot make out~~ the ~~name on the side~~ of the plane - it looks like it ~~says~~ "~~Coo{illegible}'s~~ RAMBLER". <br>		[[41-39117]], one of the Pacific Evaluation Invaders sent to the [[3rd Bombardment Group]] during 1944. Initially I thought that the caption with this photo must be wrong because the tail had what looked like a big fat stripe that resembled the 386th Bombardment Group markings, however, once I saw [[41-39118]] I understood what I was seeing. The top of the fin of this plane has a colored stripe for the squadron, and then for some reason there is a bar above the serial number. This gives it the appearance of the wider stripe, but this is not correct. The Douglas A-20 Havoc in the background further places this plane squarely as being in the pacific. In enlarging the image of the plane it looks like it reads "Coaster RAMBLER". <br>
	[[File:41-39117.jpg\|900px]]		[[File:41-39117.jpg\|900px]]

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	[[41-39117]], one of the Pacific Evaluation Invaders sent to the [[3rd Bombardment Group]] during 1944. Initially I thought that the caption with this photo must be wrong because the tail had what looked like a big fat stripe that resembled the 386th Bombardment Group markings, however, once I saw [[41-39118]] I understood what I was seeing. The top of the fin of this plane has a colored stripe for the squadron, and then for some reason there is a bar above the serial number. This gives it the appearance of the wider stripe, but this is not correct. I cannot make out the name on the side of the plane. <br>		[[41-39117]], one of the Pacific Evaluation Invaders sent to the [[3rd Bombardment Group]] during 1944. Initially I thought that the caption with this photo must be wrong because the tail had what looked like a big fat stripe that resembled the 386th Bombardment Group markings, however, once I saw [[41-39118]] I understood what I was seeing. The top of the fin of this plane has a colored stripe for the squadron, and then for some reason there is a bar above the serial number. This gives it the appearance of the wider stripe, but this is not correct. The Douglas A-20 Havoc in the background further places this plane squarely as being in the pacific. I cannot make out the name on the side of the plane - it looks like it says "Coo{illegible}'s RAMBLER". <br>
	[[File:41-39117.jpg\|900px]]		[[File:41-39117.jpg\|900px]]


	==Sources==		==Sources==

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	==Disposition==		==Disposition==
	Unknown		Unknown

			==Images==
			[[41-39117]], one of the Pacific Evaluation Invaders sent to the [[3rd Bombardment Group]] during 1944. Initially I thought that the caption with this photo must be wrong because the tail had what looked like a big fat stripe that resembled the 386th Bombardment Group markings, however, once I saw [[41-39118]] I understood what I was seeing. The top of the fin of this plane has a colored stripe for the squadron, and then for some reason there is a bar above the serial number. This gives it the appearance of the wider stripe, but this is not correct. I cannot make out the name on the side of the plane. <br>
			[[File:41-39117.jpg\|900px]]


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	[[Category:Needs Research]]		[[Category:Needs Research]]
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	See also: [[List of Invaders by Serial Number]]		See also: [[List of Invaders by Serial Number]]

			In his book ''A-26 Invader Units of WW 2'' (Pg. 91), Jim Roeder states about the planes sent to the 3rd Bomb Group for testing:

			"No photographs of the A-26s used by the 3rd BG for the combat evaluation undertaken in June 1944 are known to exist. It is reported that they were flown in olive drab and neutral grey camouflage."

			This is incorrect. The production notes show that the A-26B-1-DT model was painted as Jim describes above. However, one of the changes listed on the production notes for the A-26B-5-DT is the "deletion of camouflage". This is further supported by photographic evidence. Jim stated that no photos existed, but I have images of 41-39116, 41-39117, & 41-39118 during their combat trials at Zadnab. All of those planes are unfinished aluminum, not Olive Drab. These images confirm the data in the production note changes listed by Douglas.

			One thing that is of note is that the production records for the A-26B-5-DL block indicate that it was built with the 75mm cannon in the nose. This block includes planes between serial numbers 41-39105 through 41-39119. Of these, we know for certain that [[41-39105]] and [[41-39108]] had 75mm cannons. This plane should also have a 75mm cannon due to the production block, but both of the photos of this plane show the 6-gun arrangement. It seem probable that the 75mm cannon nose was swapped out for the 6 gun version specifically for the combat trials.

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	It was received by the USAAF ~~Feb~~ 1944.		It was received by the USAAF Mar 1944.

	Delivered Long Beach to NAS Alameda, CA. Dismantled for shipping.		Delivered Long Beach to NAS Alameda, CA. Dismantled for shipping.

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	It was received by the USAAF ~~between DEC 1943 - MAR~~ 1944.		It was received by the USAAF Feb 1944.

	Delivered Long Beach to NAS Alameda, CA. Dismantled for shipping.		Delivered Long Beach to NAS Alameda, CA. Dismantled for shipping.