Oliver Clyborn (Y48B2Q) - Revision history

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The Second Record

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	From this record we know that Oliver is the father of Isabel Cliborn who married John Thayne, son of ~~WilliaM~~ Thayne. Assuming that Isabel is between 20 and 30, then her birth would be between 1489 and 1512. If Oliver was between 20 and 30 when he had Isabel, then his birth is between 1459 and 1492, which overlaps the range established by the previous document.		From this record we know that Oliver is the father of Isabel Cliborn who married John Thayne, son of William Thayne. Assuming that Isabel is between 20 and 30, then her birth would be between 1489 and 1512. If Oliver was between 20 and 30 when he had Isabel, then his birth is between 1459 and 1492, which overlaps the range established by the previous document.

	===Thomas Clybburne===		===Thomas Clybburne===

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 ==Research Notes==
 At this time, preliminary research suggests that Oliver may be one of the Connecting links that bridges the gap between the [[Cleburnes of Westmorland]] and the [[Clebornes of Essex & Hertfordshire]], but more evidence is needed to positively confirm this.
 ===Connection to Essex & Hertfordshire===

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Family

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	=Family=		=Family=
	#Unknown Clyborn		#Unknown Clyborn (Possibly Sir John Cleburne)
	##Oliver Clyborn		##Oliver Clyborn
	##: m. Isabel Unknown		##: m. Isabel Unknown
	###Isabel Clyborn		###Isabel Clyborn
	###: m. John Thayne (Son of William)		###: m. John Thayne (Son of William)
			###Thomas Clybburne ( -10 Oct 1558)

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Connection to Westmorland

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	===Connection to Westmorland===		===Connection to Westmorland===
	Sir John Cleburne of Westmorland was known to have fought in the War of the Roses and, in particular, was present for the Battle of Barnet, the Battle of Tewksbury, and later, the Battle of Bosworth. This is significant because the Battle of Barnet took place through Monken Hadley, where Oliver lived. John Cleburne was there in Apr 1471, and Oliver is estimated to be born between 1460 and 1485. This puts John Cleburne "at the scene of the crime", so to speak, and gives him possible opportunity, but more data is needed to make a ~~defiClebornes of Essex & Hertfordshirenitive~~ connection. Right now all we have is coincidence. He is our ~~moat~~ probable lead at the moment.		Sir John Cleburne of Westmorland was known to have fought in the War of the Roses and, in particular, was present for the Battle of Barnet, the Battle of Tewksbury, and later, the Battle of Bosworth. This is significant because the Battle of Barnet took place through Monken Hadley, where Oliver lived. John Cleburne was there in Apr 1471, and Oliver is estimated to be born between 1460 and 1485. This puts John Cleburne "at the scene of the crime", so to speak, and gives him possible opportunity, but more data is needed to make a definitive connection. Right now all we have is coincidence. He is our most probable lead at the moment.

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	Oliver Clyborn was a 15th Century member of the family who lived in Monken Hadley. He is not the same as the Oliver Cliborn who appears in the Morland Parish records.		Oliver Clyborn was a 15th Century member of the family who lived in Monken Hadley. He is not the same as the Oliver Cliborn, father of Robert, who appears in the Morland Parish records in 1568.

	=Family=		=Family=

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Research Notes

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	===Connection to Essex & Hertfordshire===		===Connection to Essex & Hertfordshire===
	Oliver is believed to connected to the Clebornes of Essex and Herfordshire. Edward Cleborne, who went to America on the ''Globe'' is from Hertfordshire. The related Isom line traces to South Mimms. Monken Hadley is 10 miles west of Waltham Cross, and 3.7 miles south of South Mimms, which puts him at a central location to be the progenitor for these branches, but there is a gap of several generations that needs to be filled in to link them.		Oliver is believed to connected to the Clebornes of Essex and Herfordshire. Edward Cleborne, who went to America on the ''Globe'' is from Hertfordshire. The related Isom line traces to South Mimms. Monken Hadley is 10 miles west of Waltham Cross, and 3.7 miles south of South Mimms, which puts him at a central location to be the progenitor for these branches, but there is a gap of several generations that needs to be filled in to link them.

			===Connection to Westmorland===
			Sir John Cleburne of Westmorland was known to have fought in the War of the Roses and, in particular, was present for the Battle of Barnet, the Battle of Tewksbury, and later, the Battle of Bosworth. This is significant because the Battle of Barnet took place through Monken Hadley, where Oliver lived. John Cleburne was there in Apr 1471, and Oliver is estimated to be born between 1460 and 1485. This puts John Cleburne "at the scene of the crime", so to speak, and gives him possible opportunity, but more data is needed to make a defiClebornes of Essex & Hertfordshirenitive connection. Right now all we have is coincidence. He is our moat probable lead at the moment.

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Research Notes

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	=Research Notes=		==Research Notes==
	At this time, preliminary research suggests that Oliver may be one of the Connecting links that bridges the gap between the [[Cleburnes of Westmorland]] and the [[Clebornes of Essex & Hertfordshire]], but more evidence is needed to positively confirm this.		At this time, preliminary research suggests that Oliver may be one of the Connecting links that bridges the gap between the [[Cleburnes of Westmorland]] and the [[Clebornes of Essex & Hertfordshire]], but more evidence is needed to positively confirm this.

	==Connection to Essex & Hertfordshire==		===Connection to Essex & Hertfordshire===
	Oliver is believed to connected to the Clebornes of Essex and Herfordshire. Edward Cleborne, who went to America on the ''Globe'' is from Hertfordshire. The related Isom line traces to South Mimms. Monken Hadley is 10 miles west of Waltham Cross, and 3.7 miles south of South Mimms, which puts him at a central location to be the progenitor for these branches, but there is a gap of several generations that needs to be filled in to link them.		Oliver is believed to connected to the Clebornes of Essex and Herfordshire. Edward Cleborne, who went to America on the ''Globe'' is from Hertfordshire. The related Isom line traces to South Mimms. Monken Hadley is 10 miles west of Waltham Cross, and 3.7 miles south of South Mimms, which puts him at a central location to be the progenitor for these branches, but there is a gap of several generations that needs to be filled in to link them.

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Research Notes

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	=Research Notes=		=Research Notes=
	At this time, preliminary research suggests that Oliver may be one of the Connecting links that bridges the gap between the [[Cleburnes of ~~Westmoreland~~]] and the [[Clebornes of Essex & Hertfordshire]], but more evidence is needed to positively confirm this.		At this time, preliminary research suggests that Oliver may be one of the Connecting links that bridges the gap between the [[Cleburnes of Westmorland]] and the [[Clebornes of Essex & Hertfordshire]], but more evidence is needed to positively confirm this.

	==Connection to Essex & Hertfordshire==		==Connection to Essex & Hertfordshire==
	Oliver is believed to connected to the Clebornes of Essex and Herfordshire. Edward Cleborne, who went to America on the ''Globe'' is from Hertfordshire. The related Isom line traces to South Mimms. Monken Hadley is 10 miles west of Waltham Cross, and 3.7 miles south of South Mimms, which puts him at a central location to be the progenitor for these branches, but there is a gap of several generations that needs to be filled in to link them.		Oliver is believed to connected to the Clebornes of Essex and Herfordshire. Edward Cleborne, who went to America on the ''Globe'' is from Hertfordshire. The related Isom line traces to South Mimms. Monken Hadley is 10 miles west of Waltham Cross, and 3.7 miles south of South Mimms, which puts him at a central location to be the progenitor for these branches, but there is a gap of several generations that needs to be filled in to link them.

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	=Research Notes=		=Research Notes=
			At this time, preliminary research suggests that Oliver may be one of the Connecting links that bridges the gap between the [[Cleburnes of Westmoreland]] and the [[Clebornes of Essex & Hertfordshire]], but more evidence is needed to positively confirm this.

			==Connection to Essex & Hertfordshire==
			Oliver is believed to connected to the Clebornes of Essex and Herfordshire. Edward Cleborne, who went to America on the ''Globe'' is from Hertfordshire. The related Isom line traces to South Mimms. Monken Hadley is 10 miles west of Waltham Cross, and 3.7 miles south of South Mimms, which puts him at a central location to be the progenitor for these branches, but there is a gap of several generations that needs to be filled in to link them.

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Oliver Clyborn was a 15th Century member of the family who lived in Monken Hadley. He is not the same as the Oliver Cliborn who appears in the Morland Parish records.

=Family=
#Unknown Clyborn
##Oliver Clyborn
##: m. Isabel Unknown
###Isabel Clyborn
###: m. John Thayne (Son of William)

=Research Notes=